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Let’s talk about the 8-minute call
November 20, 2025
The idea of the “8-minute call” is making the rounds on LinkedIn. The concept is simple and catchy: a short, friendly call – just eight minutes – can reduce loneliness, lift moods, and maybe even prevent depression. It sounds great. But does it hold up?
Popularized by Simon Sinek, this is the selling point: “At the end of the day, eight minutes of a friend’s time can make all the difference in the world. Best of all, it’s only eight minutes.” [A]
As always, it’s worth pausing to ask: Is this a fact or just another trend?
I recently came across the 8-minute call claim again, so I decided to read the study from JAMA Psychiatry [B]. Intrigued, I read it carefully to see if it actually supports the idea that a single short call makes a measurable difference. And here’s the thing: it doesn’t.
What does the study show? That a structured program of daily, empathy-focused calls – lasting 10 minutes or more – sustained over four weeks can significantly reduce loneliness, depression, and anxiety in older adults.
In other words: the benefit came from repeated, consistent, and compassionate conversations, not from a one-off call of arbitrary length about whatever topic.
So no, 8-minute calls are not a magic fix. To my knowledge, there is currently no evidence that a single short check-in, by itself, is enough to improve someone’s mental health in a measurable way.
And this brings me to a broader concern. I get a little uneasy when complex and serious challenges like loneliness or depression are framed as problems with quick, easy solutions. It’s not that small gestures aren’t valuable – they definitely are – but there’s a risk in overselling them. When catchy ideas take off without evidence to back them up, it can lead to misplaced expectations and a lack of investment in deeper, more sustained support.
Put boldly; it’s important that we cut through the bullshit.
That said, I also get the appeal of the 8-minute framing. For some people, let’s just talk for 8 minutes feels a lot more doable than let’s have a chat. I accept the premise that “the concept of the “eight-minute catch-up” has emerged as a practical application of the research.” [A] It lowers the barrier to reaching out. And that matters – especially for those of us who have good intentions but don’t always act on them.
So, what’s the takeaway?
Call someone. Be kind. Reach out. If saying “I’ve only got 8 minutes” makes that easier, then absolutely go for it. But let’s not pretend it’s a treatment for depression or a plug-and-play solution for managers looking to check in with their teams.
Human connection is powerful. But it’s not always fast. And we do everyone a service when we distinguish between feel-good trends and evidence-based practice.
References
[B] Kahlon, M. K., Aksan, N., Aubrey, R., Clark, N., Cowley-Morillo, M., Jacobs, E. A., Mundhenk, R., Sebastian, K. R., & Tomlinson, S. (2021). Effect of layperson-delivered, empathy-focused program of telephone calls on loneliness, depression, and anxiety among adults during the COVID-19 pandemic: A randomized clinical trial. JAMA Psychiatry, 78(6), 616–622. https://doi.org/10.1001/jamapsychiatry.2021.0113